As I noted the other day - and Jason at The Westen Experience has picked up - the left is spinning a triumphalist meme on the redeployment from Iraq. With public opinion finding a majority of Americans seeing the war as won, Democrats have shifted to the stance of progressive wise men.
A couple of posts I'm reading this morning got me thinking some more about this. One of these is NeoNeocon's post on Vietnam and the antiwar movement, "Advocating Defeat Without Consequences: “Ending” the War. This passage is key:
The Left ... has always blamed America’s actions during the Vietnam war—and especially the bombing of Cambodia—for the ascendance of the brutal Pol Pot regime and its later killing fields (see this article, especially pages 6-7, for an argument against that controversial theory, as well as an explanation of its journalistic origins). The Left has also consistently minimized the suffering of the people of South Vietnam when the North took over. To the Left, the Northern Vietnamese Communists weren’t so bad, and the Cambodian Communists (who even they have to admit were pretty nasty folk) would never have succeeded but for the actions of the US in fighting them and their North Vietnamese allies.The second post I'm reading is Mark Harvey's, "Callin' All The Clans Together," which adds some profane outrage at the antiwar defeatism on both left and right:
Not only does the Left whitewash the consequences of the American defeat in Vietnam. I’ll go even further and say that to the Left, the Vietnam pullout was actually a victory—for them. It’s something they had promoted for a long time, and they finally won. What’s more, except for the rare Vietnam revisionist historian, their version of history won; it has come to dominate the texts and the press. And so the Left neither wanted—nor needed—to look at the negative consequences of the defeat for others.
Personally, I didn't bleed for this Nation, nor did I carry one of my best friends trying to get him to safety and medical attention as his blood ran down my back just to have some limp-wristed holier-than-thou "get along with the enemy" conservatives tell me that I am a goddamn fucking black helicopter republican. First off, I am not a republican. I am a pissed off DAVFW and if any of the above offends you, kiss my ass. By the way, my friend made it back to safety after his life left him. His last words to me were, "Hey man. Get your hand off my cod sack bitch." He died 5 minutes later. Fuck Obama.I want to stress Mark mention of the "get along" conservatives, who are the very same "antiwar conservatives" who have made common cause with anti-Americans of the far left.
5 comments:
The demonstrations against the Cambodian incursion made it politically impossible for the Nixon administration to aid and support the Cambodian government against the Khmer Rouge. A little ground and air support would have changed history. Millions died because of the anti-war activists.
Similarly, the anti-war activists and Democratic Party made it politically impossibe for Bush to destroy the Iranian nuclear facilities. Again, millions, perhaps tens of millions of innocent people will die in the
near future because of near sighted anti-war activists.
However, some activists want the tens of millions to die for out of chaos the communist revolution succeeds. The end justifies the means. Ammo hard to find, wonder why.
Thanks Norm!
"American defeat in Vietnam"
We weren't defeated in Vietnam. We quit.
-Dave
1) NeoNeocon's misconceptions about the Vietnam war are so numerous they would take a volume to refute.
2) Norm's comment is amazing. "The demonstrations against the Cambodian incursion made it politically impossible for the Nixon administration to aid and support the Cambodian government against the Khmer Rouge. A little ground and air support would have changed history."
The Cambodian "incursion," as Norm delicately puts it, was an American invasion of Cambodia launched in April 1970 (if memory serves -- yes, I was around then), after a secret American bombing campaign in Cambodia. The demonstrations did not make it "impossible" for Nixon to do anything, as the war continued for several more years, including the extremely intense Christmas 1972 bombing of North Vietnam. The notion that a little more American support for Sihanouk or his successor could have prevented a Khmer Rouge takeover is implausible, and to blame the millions of deaths inflicted by Pol Pot on the American anti-war movement is ahistorical and wrong. Cambodia was in turmoil in the first place b/c of the Vietnam War and the way the U.S. fought it.
FUCK LIBERALS. FUCK COMMUNISTS. FUCK CHINESE. FUCK THEM ALL.
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