The latest demonstration of sexual assault politics comes from cinema propagandist Michael Moore, who is a big fan of accused rapist and WikiLeaks saboteur Julian Assange. In an interview with Keith Olbermann of MSNBC, after posting bail for his hacker hero, Moore dismissed the charges against Assange as “a bunch of hooey” about “a broken condom” ....There's more at the link, but I just love that Sady Doyle smackdown.
Moore’s callous dismissal of the Assange accusers recalls the contortions of the Hollywood Left to excuse Roman Polanski, who actually admitted his guilt, obliging his defenders to re-define either the nature or severity of his actions. This led Whoopi Goldberg to give us the famous “rape-rape” concept, as distinguished from the kinda-sorta no-harm-no-foul plain vanilla “rape.” Rape-rape is apparently a crime liberal icons cannot be guilty of.
Feminist blogger Sady Doyle went nuclear after Moore’s appearance on the Olbermann show, and created a Twitter hashtag, #MooreandMe, to batter him into submission ....
Congratulations are due to Doyle for twisting this loathsome man’s arm behind his back, but that doesn’t change what he said in the first place, or why he said it. The details of the allegations against Assange are widely spread across the Internet, where Michael Moore spends a great deal of his time. He deliberately discarded those details, and spoke of hooey and condoms, because the truth would interfere with his rapturous adoration of the WikiLeaks messiah. He only recanted because a prominent and energetic liberal forced him to. He never would have listened to such criticism from a class or political enemy, and if Assange had assaulted a couple of Young Republicans, he wouldn’t have listened to Doyle either.
Perhaps she will spare a moment to reflect how many of her “progressive” friends are no different than Michael Moore, who is a living caricature of a fundamental, and very ugly, truth. Totalitarians demand a monopoly on the distribution of guilt, and truth. Anyone who claims you should “never, ever believe the official story” is demanding a level of faith thinking people never invest in any individual, especially a proven liar like Moore. You’ll notice the biggest liars are the ones who demand that level of faith most stridently.
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One it's not that she's not progressive, the problem is she's IWF, IWF is the antithesis of everything we stand for. Everything we fight for they fight against, every single thing. They oppose everything we believe in while trying to appropriate our identity. They are trying to erase us. Please note I'm not saying all feminists are the same we're not a monolith, but there are a certain numbers of issues that most feinists can agree on (I say most not all) and it's those that IWF oppose.
ReplyDeleteNow she did say all the right things, I obviously don't disagree with her words, I just don't believe she means them, she came off incredibly rehearsed as if she were reading cue cards with someone else's words on them (IE Mine, Sady, whoever else). Now let me explain why I don't believe she actually means what she says. The IWF opposed the Violence against Women Act, so it's hard for me to hear her words as sincere and not just a political stunt.
I'm going to lay out a scenario as to why this whole thing bothers me:
ReplyDeleteOk say a prominent conservative figure (some one you truly thought was on your side) speaks out against something, and it's something you hold dear and really believe in, something you and your closest allies fight for everyday. Now say that this thing is usually something that at all conservatives believe in too, except now in this specific case, they've all turned their backs on you and you and your closest allies. Now imagine when you start to fight for this thing everyone starts to turn on you, even a few of your closets allies. So you decide you know what I'm going to take this prominent figure to task and get him/her to listen to you, to just hear you out because you know if he/she does he'll/she'll understand your point and come around. So you launch a protest, you get some of your closets allies and you protest day in day out for a week until finally you get your audience with him/her and he/she hears you, honestly hears you and affirms that what you are fighting for is important and does so on national TV. All is right with the world right? Wrong, you've got your one ally back but you still have all these former allies coming after you, you're receiving death threats and people are still organizing strong against your most passionate belief. You're fighting to get your voice out, to get through to your allies that your belief is important and once was to them too and you wonder just why they can't see that. You are desperate for a voice, a chance to speak out because you know if you get a chance you can change things. Now imagine you turn the TV on, and right there on TV is a prominent Liberal figure, someone who goes against everything you believe in and who has fought in some ways against the very thing you are fighting for now. So they're on TV and they're speaking your words, your words, the ones you been trying to get out there, there he/she is saying them but they're cold, empty, meaningless coming from that person because you practically know they really don't believe in it, they're just taking an opportunity to take a swipe at one of their big enemies (your Prominent conservative who you just fought to get an audience with). Ask yourself does this help your cause? Not really this Liberal figure is someone whom no one on your side of the political spectrum listens to or believes in, this is someone that stands against almost everything your spectrum believes in, no one is going to be swayed by this person speaking, in fact it's likely to anger further the very people you are trying to reach with you message. Because it's not your message anymore, it's become theirs, the rival's, the opponent's they've taken your words and claimed them to be their own, they've taken air time that could have gone to you or one of your allies who have been fighting who have been active in this movement and given it to someone who is your moral opposite and who had no hand in the movement whatsoever, who just waltz in and claims the movement for their own even though fundamentally it's a movement they don't even believe in
You have to understand that that is what the IWF is to us. I don't expect you to agree, since you and I and I have complete mirrored political views. I just hope I laid out why people right now are angry.
I'm going to lay out a scenario as to why this whole thing bothers me:
ReplyDeleteOk say a prominent conservative figure (some one you truly thought was on your side) speaks out against something, and it's something you hold dear and really believe in, something you and your closest allies fight for everyday. Now say that this thing is usually something that at all conservatives believe in too, except now in this specific case, they've all turned their backs on you and you and your closest allies. Now imagine when you start to fight for this thing everyone starts to turn on you, even a few of your closets allies. So you decide you know what I'm going to take this prominent figure to task and get him/her to listen to you, to just hear you out because you know if he/she does he'll/she'll understand your point and come around. So you launch a protest, you get some of your closets allies and you protest day in day out for a week until finally you get your audience with him/her and he/she hears you, honestly hears you and affirms that what you are fighting for is important and does so on national TV. All is right with the world right? Wrong, you've got your one ally back but you still have all these former allies coming after you, you're receiving death threats and people are still organizing strong against your most passionate belief. You're fighting to get your voice out, to get through to your allies that your belief is important and once was to them too and you wonder just why they can't see that. You are desperate for a voice, a chance to speak out because you know if you get a chance you can change things. Now imagine you turn the TV on, and right there on TV is a prominent Liberal figure, someone who goes against everything you believe in and who has fought in some ways against the very thing you are fighting for now. So they're on TV and they're speaking your words, your words, the ones you been trying to get out there, there he/she is saying them but they're cold, empty, meaningless coming from that person because you practically know they really don't believe in it, they're just taking an opportunity to take a swipe at one of their big enemies (your Prominent conservative who you just fought to get an audience with). Ask yourself does this help your cause? Not really this Liberal figure is someone whom no one on your side of the political spectrum listens to or believes in, this is someone that stands against almost everything your spectrum believes in, no one is going to be swayed by this person speaking, in fact it's likely to anger further the very people you are trying to reach with you message. Because it's not your message anymore, it's become theirs, the rival's, the opponent's they've taken your words and claimed them to be their own, they've taken air time that could have gone to you or one of your allies who have been fighting who have been active in this movement and given it to someone who is your moral opposite and who had no hand in the movement whatsoever, who just waltz in and claims the movement for their own even though fundamentally it's a movement they don't even believe in
You have to understand that that is what the IWF is to us. I don't expect you to agree, since you and I and I have complete mirrored political views. I just hope I laid out why people right now are angry.
I'm going to lay out a scenario as to why this whole thing bothers me:
ReplyDeleteOk say a prominent conservative figure (some one you truly thought was on your side) speaks out against something, and it's something you hold dear and really believe in, something you and your closest allies fight for everyday. Now say that this thing is usually something that at all conservatives believe in too, except now in this specific case, they've all turned their backs on you and you and your closest allies. Now imagine when you start to fight for this thing everyone starts to turn on you, even a few of your closets allies. So you decide you know what I'm going to take this prominent figure to task and get him/her to listen to you, to just hear you out because you know if he/she does he'll/she'll understand your point and come around. So you launch a protest, you get some of your closets allies and you protest day in day out for a week until finally you get your audience with him/her and he/she hears you, honestly hears you and affirms that what you are fighting for is important and does so on national TV.
All is right with the world right? Wrong, you've got your one ally back but you still have all these former allies coming after you, you're receiving death threats and people are still organizing strong against your most passionate belief. You're fighting to get your voice out, to get through to your allies that your belief is important and once was to them too and you wonder just why they can't see that. You are desperate for a voice, a chance to speak out because you know if you get a chance you can change things. Now imagine you turn the TV on, and right there on TV is a prominent Liberal figure, someone who goes against everything you believe in and who has fought in some ways against the very thing you are fighting for now. So they're on TV and they're speaking your words, your words, the ones you been trying to get out there, there he/she is saying them but they're cold, empty, meaningless coming from that person because you practically know they really don't believe in it, they're just taking an opportunity to take a swipe at one of their big enemies (your Prominent conservative who you just fought to get an audience with). Ask yourself does this help your cause? Not really this Liberal figure is someone whom no one on your side of the political spectrum listens to or believes in, this is someone that stands against almost everything your spectrum believes in, no one is going to be swayed by this person speaking, in fact it's likely to anger further the very people you are trying to reach with you message. Because it's not your message anymore, it's become theirs, the rival's, the opponent's they've taken your words and claimed them to be their own, they've taken air time that could have gone to you or one of your allies who have been fighting who have been active in this movement and given it to someone who is your moral opposite and who had no hand in the movement whatsoever, who just waltz in and claims the movement for their own even though fundamentally it's a movement they don't even believe in
ReplyDeleteYou have to understand that that is what the IWF is to us. I don't expect you to agree, since you and I and I have complete mirrored political views. I just hope I laid out why people right now are angry, why I am angry
I just want to say I am interacting with you in good faith, a gesture to try and prove too that Feminists don't just hate blindly like you seem to think we do.
ReplyDeleteTo be honest I'm not sure what I expect from this, you seem to hate the very identity that I am most proud of. , I just thought I'd give it a shot.