You know, that whole thing last week - the lies Pam Spaulding told about this blog, the gay bestiality thing - was pretty pathetic, but eye-opening.
In all of my blogging on the radical gay agenda since November 4th, the question for me has always been about postmodern ideology and the left's stormtrooper political tactics. I don't go in for attacking homosexuals for bestiality, deviance, or anything else. That said, I think this picture above, part of the Times' gay rights coverage on the "loud and colorful" from yesterday, raises serious questions about what's really at stake in the same-sex marriage debate.
I mean come on: The younger guy is KNITTING!
Actually, I'm no absolutist on stereotypical gender roles, but there's something weirdly out of sync about a male homosexual with his husband attending a public rally while knitting away on some fluffy cap or sweater. Besides, knitting's a girl's thing!
So, what does this say about marriage? Are these guys adopting? What does the son say to his "dads" while hoping to make the JV football squad at the tryouts: "Gee, 'dads,' can you leave the knitting needles in the car ... might hurt my chances with the coach, you know?"
Anyway, I'm sure I've already said enough to get into trouble with the PC hordes of the nihilist left. But let me close with a passage from David Blankenhorn on the meaning of marriage:
I reject homophobia and believe in the equal dignity of gay and lesbian love. Because I also believe with all my heart in the right of the child to the mother and father who made her, I believe that we as a society should seek to maintain and to strengthen the only human institution - marriage - that is specifically intended to safeguard that right and make it real for our children.Photo Credit: Los Angeles Times.Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. But changing the meaning of marriage to accommodate homosexual orientation further and perhaps definitively undermines for all of us the very thing - the gift, the birthright - that is marriage's most distinctive contribution to human society. That's a change that, in the final analysis, I cannot support.
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Knitting's a girl's thing?
Tell it to Rosey Grier.
"At 6'5" and 300 pounds, he didn't care if you thought he was a sissy or not."
Not everyone has the luxury.
Of course, you're a worthless nihilist troll, Deranged Leftwing Baker. The guys in the picture would get their sissy butts kicked by men like Rosey Grier, as would you.
your entire post is silly and extremely distracting. Might I suggest you show a degree of maturity and maybe the points you make will make a little sense.
One more thing - Pam didn't lie.
Black Tsunami:
Pam Spaulding's a liar.
Don, Pam Spaulding and my nihilist PC hordes notwithstanding...
Despite the fact that I do think that I could kick your own ass in real life (you don't look like you're that big of a guy, I have what I estimate to be about 10 years on you and I boxed for several years in college, with additional martial arts training, with all due respect, of course), what is your point here?
That some guys are pussies? Of course they are! The world is rife with pussies, from knitting gay guys who couldn't hold their own in a bar fight to Republican CEOs who would shit a brick if I knocked the fine scotch out of their hand and threatened them with immediate bodily harm for the actions of their corporations.
But to post a picture of a pair of effeminate gay guys and then cap on their obvious lack of masculinity: you are a college professor, right? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that I could take most guys I see knitting in public but what does that prove?
I'm also pretty sure I could take most douchebag commentators I see on cable television but that does nothing to lessen their intellectual arguments. This brand of "fag-bashing" should be beneath even you.
There are boys who act like little girls, don't let it threaten you. And I do have to ask the question you've ignored in the past: what will you do if one of your own sons realizes that they're gay? I'm not trying to bait you or insult you (although many people would not perceive that question as an insult), I honestly want to know. As always, I wait with baited breath.
JBW: I'm close to 200 pounds, and in the past, I've never backed down from a fight if I was threatened. You want to kick my ass because I think gays knitting are effeminate?
No Don, I also think that knitting is effeminate. And I never said that I want to kick your ass, just that I think I could.
Settle down, blossom. And I missed your answer to my question about your sons...
JBW: Didn't you threaten PrivatePigg in one of my previous posts? I think you need to settle down. You're always trying to demonstrate how manly you are by telling folks in my threads you're going to punch them out!
Again Don, I never said that I would or wanted to punch PP or yourself out, just that I think that I could. It's quite obviously an academic argument, at best. I'm very secure in my own manhood (minus the offensive knitting, of course), thank you very much.
Is it just that you don't want to answer my query about the possible future homosexuality of your progeny (which you keep avoiding)? You know me, to the extent that you can know anyone online; I'm not asking because I think that homosexuality is bad or wrong.
I'm just curious as to your views on gay marriage if one of your own boys wanted the same rights that many gays are now denied by yourself and others of your ilk. Are you going to avoid the question again by pretending that I've somehow threatened to kick your ass?
Since Mr. Grier is a Christian minister and I'm a long-time Rams fan (yes I can name the rest of the "fearsome foursome"), I would like to think that he would not "kick my butt." I would also like to think that he is not into homo-bashing, as you suggest. I, personally, don't see what is so effeminate about knitting. That seems to be something that has been culturally determined. But, if you want to think so, fine.
Japanese samurai, despite being killing machines, engaged in activities you would probably see as unmanly, too. The Tea Ceremony and poetry, for instance. Yeah, I know they would kick my, and the gay guys butts, too.
Sorry to have unleashed the testosterone here.
BTW, the name Rosey? That's from Roosevelt. Apparently, his folks liked FDR as much, maybe more than, mine did.
"I, personally, don't see what is so effeminate about knitting. That seems to be something that has been culturally determined."
Of course. You guys have a problem with CULTURE, duh...!
I love culture, Don. Still avoiding though, I see...
You know I'm a girl and connot knitt amoung other "woman" activities. I love playing and watching sports. I love to have a beer now and then. Am I a lesbian?? Last time I no.
I know you are against gay marriage, but latley you seem to just be hating gays. Thats just the imprerssion I'm getting. If thats what you are going for great, but if not you might not want to say the stuff you are saying.
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Vanessa: I didn't say knitting made people gay. And I certainly don't hate gays. Just keep reading the blog. It's the gays who hate. Their whole deal is bigotry and bullying of those who won't get with the program.
You've got my number, Don: hate, hate, hate. Still waiting, guy...
My husband Van and I just shared a good laugh over the back and forth re our picture. I'll take a break from the marriage issue for a moment to comment on the notion of masculinity. First, in this day and age of stay-at-home dads and working moms, perhaps masculinity and femininity are quaint, outdated concepts. Leaving that possibility aside however,to me, he who is truly masculine spends little to no time pondering his manliness, and is completely unconcerned with others perceived masculinity, nor their perception of his masculinity. If my husband wants to do something, he does it without regard to whether he will be seen as manly. By this criteria, Van is perhaps the most masculine man I know.
Jay: No apologies, buddy. I'm glad you have each other, but even my small son - who is in 7th grade - winced when he saw the knitting (and that's with no prompt from me, since male-knitting isn't a hot topic at my house).
To each his own on matters of personal interest. I'm not that hung up on traditional gender roles, but I think this relates to the larger question of what it means to be married.
As Blankenhorn notes at the post:
I reject homophobia and believe in the equal dignity of gay and lesbian love. Because I also believe with all my heart in the right of the child to the mother and father who made her, I believe that we as a society should seek to maintain and to strengthen the only human institution - marriage - that is specifically intended to safeguard that right and make it real for our children.
Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. But changing the meaning of marriage to accommodate homosexual orientation further and perhaps definitively undermines for all of us the very thing - the gift, the birthright - that is marriage's most distinctive contribution to human society. That's a change that, in the final analysis, I cannot support."
Taking Donald up on his offer to "post elsewhere and leave a link here," (see "Moderating Comments" post) seeing as how the "Links to this post" section below is mysteriously dropping the links to my place that blogger leaves automatically...
American Nihilist: The Real Scurge of Gay Marriage...
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