Saturday, August 22, 2009

Wally Herger Town Hall: The 'Atmosphere of a Revival'

Wally Herger, who represents California's District 2 in the House, held an energetic town hall rally last Tuesday. Here's the local report from Redding, "Health Care Rally Draws Huge Crowd":



North state congressman Wally Herger enjoyed home-court advantage at an enthusiastic and sometimes emotional town hall meeting on health care Tuesday night in the Simpson University gymnasium.

Amid signs like "Keep Barackracy out of our Health Care System" and "Palin is right the bill is evil," Herger, R-Chico, addressed an overflowing crowd of 2,100 people inside the stuffy gym. The air conditioning wasn't working.

At times, the night took on the atmosphere of a revival as Herger worked the crowd into a frenzy, throwing out such names as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Congressman Barney Frank.

"I'm opposing a public plan with everything I have," Herger said to an ear-splitting standing ovation.

Bert Stead, 67, of Redding warned Herger that his work won't stop with his "no" vote on President Barack Obama's plan for health care reform.

"I'm a proud right-wing terrorist," Stead said to a raucous cheer. "We don't want government running our business."
There's more at the link.

From the sound of things, the Herger town hall was far more civil and engaging than most of the Democratic town halls we've seen (with folks like Barney Frank and Claire McCaskill upbraiding their very own constituents). But Amanda Terkel,
at Think Progress, has apparently gone hysterical over a quote from another report at the Mt. Shasta News, "Congressman Herger Calls Obama Plan 'Threat to Democracy'":

Republican Congressman Wally Herger held a health care town hall meeting Aug. 18 at Simpson University in Redding, where a partisan crowd of over 2,000 people loudly cheered Herger’s position that a public option was “unacceptable.”Although Herger called several times for the audience to “respect each other’s opinions,” those opposed to president Obama’s health care were greeted with cheers while the few in favor were interrupted with catcalls.Herger did not hold back on his opinion of the health care plan and the administration’s appointment of “czars” to head various departments and task forces. “Our democracy has never been threatened as much as it is today,” Herger said to a loud standing ovation ....

After denouncing the Obama plan to wild cheering, Herger offered a few solutions of his own including opening up competition among private health care companies by forcing companies to sell policies nationwide rather than just within individual states, tort reform to bring down malpractice costs and “risk pools like automobile companies” for those with preexisting conditions who Herger conceded are unable to get coverage [emphasis added].
Check the video at top. Herger clearly enjoys getting out there on the hustings with his constituents, and the crowd didn't hold back their exhortations at Herger's rallying cries. While the reports indicate at least one scuffle broke out, Herger shows, ideally, what a town hall rally should be all about. Members of Congress are supposed to represent the interests of the people back home. Of course, when Democratic Members of Congress dismiss the interests of their voters, as has been true so often of late, they court the kind of anger we've been seeing for weeks.

And then for Amanda Terkel to rip one line out of a clearly raucous rally, and then to impugn one gentleman attending, who announced he was proud to be a "
right wing terrorist," indicates a complete and utter desperation. Folks on the right have eagerly mocked the DHS report on the alleged threat from "single issue voters" worried about immigration and other policies. And while leftists continue to demonize regular citizens, the administration is now facing the complete repudiation in both policy and public opinion.

It must be hard for Democrats to brought down that low. But it must be especially painful considering that leftists brought much of this on themselves.

8 comments:

Reliapundit said...

the "mobs" are truly awesome.

i have never seen anything like it - and it's pervasive and national.

parents don't want the govt running their family's health insurance with all the efficiency of the post office and fannie mae.

Anonymous said...

Wait a minute, the republicans are calling THEMSELVES teabaggers -- not the left.

And proof of their hysterical inane mindset is the definition of teabagging -- easily found on Google. LOL.

And, if you read the myriad blogs from the right and compare them to the left you will inevitably find the same paranoid factless hysteria from the right.

As an example, NOONE on the right can answer this question:

Why should we support an insurance industry that skims 20% cost and profit off of $2,400,000,000,000 (more than twice our military) yet provides us quality of care that is 37th in the world, forces someone into bankruptcy every 30 seconds, excludes pre-existing conditions, and regularly drops patients as a matter of business if they become sick?

Furthermore, the majority of these right wing pro-insurance workers will not get a raise because their raise is going into increasing health care.

The only real answer is that the insurance industry is spending over $1,400,000 a day in lies and propaganda, and organizing hundreds of these folks -- who often lie about their affiliation -- with less-than-holy incentives and intentions. In other words -- they may not all be retarded, but many of them are certainly TROLLS -- paid or otherwise.

heidianne jackson said...

anon - we call ourselves tea-partiers not baggers. that name came from Jon Stewart and his ilk. we do not use it and we do not appreciate it being used by us.

as for the 37th ranking of the u.s. medical system by the u.n. give me a break. they gave us the rating because we are not operating the way they think we should.

I've had medical care in Europe. I'll take our system any day of the week.

heidianne jackson said...

make that: we do not use it and we do not appreciate it being used about us.

Donald Douglas said...

I'd normally delete the anonymous trolls, Heidi, but since you responded ...

Rich Casebolt said...

Why should we support an insurance industry that skims 20% cost and profit off of $2,400,000,000,000 (more than twice our military) ...

Because there is a HIGH probability that most, if not all of that 20% will be than eaten up (and then some) by the inefficiency and waste of a politically-influenced "public option" that will become the ONLY option for all of us if implemented.

Do you think that the costs that make up much of that 20% will magically disappear once the government takes over?

And you would not be eliminating profit... the profit motive would just express itself as empire-building, influence-peddling, and pork-barrel spending on the health-care system: i.e. POLITICALLY-MOTIVATED profit.

Plus, we would lose our ability to change insurers, pay cash, and utilize our charitable resources to find alternative paths to care when the bureaucracy fails us as individuals (as it inevitably will). That ability is worth spending a little "profit" on.

Don't buy the line that private insurance will not be eliminated by the presence of a public option.

We already have evidence to the contrary ... the blinding speed at which seniors are moved off private health-care plans to Medicare, by employers and unions, because their private plans are all set up under the assumption that Medicare will take over the cost burden of these seniors when they become eligible. Think that won't happen to ALL of us once the public option is implemented?

yet provides us quality of care that is 37th in the world ...

Only in the eyes of a UN agency ... and the judgment of any organization that treats dictator and democrat with equal deference should be suspect.

The medical innovations that come out of this nation ... the lower death rates from cancer and other serious diseases compared to others above us on that UN list ... our own definition of a live birth, which differs significantly from that in other nations and skews the UN statistics on infant mortality ... and the throngs of people who come to America for medical care ... also render the findings of that WHO report suspect.

... forces someone into bankruptcy every 30 seconds ...

Care to provide justification for that number ... I doubt that it is driven SOLELY by health care, given the lack of financial foresight that is so pervasive in our nation ... a lack of foresight stemming from one of the biggest lies of all that is perpetuated by our political class: all you are obligated to do is show up for work; OTHERS will take care of matters like these FOR you.

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Rich Casebolt said...

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... excludes pre-existing conditions ..., and regularly drops patients as a matter of business if they become sick?

"REGULARLY"? I've only seen a FEW cases where people were dropped ... and that was only because it was noteworthy enough to garner news coverage. I have yet to see this with my own eyes.

As for the pre-existing condition problem, that has largely been addressed by the HIPPA portability laws implemented years ago. Once someone is covered by a group plan, pre-existing conditions are immediately covered when they change jobs, as long as they have maintained coverage in their old plan and establish it in the new one. At worst, there might be a 60-day period of time where the insured will have to pay the full cost of their coverage via COBRA, as they transition from the old to the new insurance. That can be planned for.

And, even if what you say was true, it wouldn't be going away ... it would simply be replaced by the health-care rationing that will be inevitable in the government system, as costs and demand both rise for something perceived the same way as free ice cream.

The difference is, I can work around the shortcomings of the private system ... my employer can implement better group coverage (and he has in the firm I work for at present) ... I can change jobs (actually considered that once, when my spouse was encroaching upon a lifetime limit for certain kinds of care) ... I can seek charitable assistance (that is, as long as government regulations and mandates don't run places like St. Jude's and the Catholic hospital system out of business) ... or pay cash as I am able.

NONE OF THE ABOVE will be reliably available to you once the public option becomes the ONLY option ... then, the only recourse you will have will be as unpredictable, and as glacial in pace, as change through the political cycle has historically been.

There's your answer, anon ... now, does the public option -- or the government-funded co-ops being pushed forward as their substitute in rhetoric only -- sound like such a bargain?

And, just whom is buying into "paranoid factless hysteria"? Hmmm ...

The only real answer is that the insurance industry is spending over $1,400,000 a day in lies and propaganda, and organizing hundreds of these folks -- who often lie about their affiliation -- with less-than-holy incentives and intentions. In other words -- they may not all be retarded, but many of them are certainly TROLLS -- paid or otherwise.

Funny, I don't see ANY insurance-company influence in the Tea Parties (which also pre-dated the health care debate, BTW) I have been a part of.

OTOH, I've seen many cases where pro-Obamacare support has been union-organized and/or bused-in complete with pre-printed signs ... in stark contrast to the parking lot full of cars and homemade signs of the Tea Partiers ... and even then, the latter seriously outnumbers the former.

Now, just whom is spreading propaganda here? Hmmm ...

Judge C. Crater said...

Looks like Mr. Stead isn't too proud "to hold his hand
out" for $10M in "socialist" taxpayer assistance on a water line:

http://www.recordsearchlight.com/news/2008/jan/02/elk-trail-residents...
http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:VFkVssp46bAJ:www.elktrailwater.or...

Why doesn't he wait until market forces build that water line?

If I'm remembering my history lessons (and feel free to correct my
public university education if I'm wrong), the passengers on the
Mayflower did not have dishwashing machines. I'd think Bert'd be
quite happy to keep washing his dishes by hand in solidarity with his
not "holding their hands out for help" ancestors rather than accept
'guvmint' (unless he digs the water line by hand) help.